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XolahPosts: 18 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #1131 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:31 am |
Hi, I'm Xolah A.K.A. ~^X^~
I'm a 31 year old guiy in canada who's been playing 3x3 mmorpgs for about 5 years now. After taking a look around your site and playing for a few days I have to say it looks like it could be a fun game except...offering premium services? I assume you've looked at the other 3x3 grid games and others like runescape. runescape offers a month of service with everything that that entails for just over 10 dollars. Scrollwars has no premium services although a donation will get you a custom title, Hell Rising had no premium services but a donation got your character a custom armband. Vampire:Dark alley, no premium services but donations of $5 got you powers for your character, some of which were only available by donation. Please keep 3x3s free and make money with a small advertisment like the one on the scrollwars site or by donations for faster motivation regeneration(Which is too slow as it is), maybe faster resource building, more xp and treasure from monsters, special donation golem parts or accessories.
My 2 cents. |
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CaduceusPosts: 185 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU2 Real Name: Paul
| Message #1132 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 6:52 am |
Giving more motivation, faster resource generation, more xp and treasure-- these would be game-breaking and give a severe advantage to those who pay. As it stands, the premium features are largely cosmetic.
The game is free. The suggestions you make would require people to pay to stay competitive.
Basically, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. |
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XolahPosts: 18 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #1134 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 9:37 am |
| Caduceus said:
Giving more motivation, faster resource generation, more xp and treasure-- these would be game-breaking and give a severe advantage to those who pay. As it stands, the premium features are largely cosmetic.
The game is free. The suggestions you make would require people to pay to stay competitive.
Basically, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. I can't see the faster M-regen as a problem if it was kept on a 6/60 ratio. 4 poins an hour is redonkulous it's not even enough to perform an attack per hour. As for the Largely cosmetic? Salvaging golem parts is cosmetic? I seen that as a major issue later on. Pay to stay competitive: If you'll look at Vampires:Dark alley the forefather of all grid games, you'll notice that donation powers arn't world shattering abilities. I'll suggest some things so you'll understand i'm not talking about shattering the world with new ideas
Increased Resources: +2/hour
Extra golem damage:+1-2
Other resources regeneration: 1 resource per 5$ at 1/hour
Extra golem space:$5/2 slots
Golem parts with higher HP: +2hp bonus
The list could go on and on, I'm just suggesting a happier medium, not trying to ruin the game. |
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| Tallis Posts: 30
Location: Villuno
Magus Age: 115 years old
Real Name: Kel
| Message #1138 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 1:31 pm |
If you don't like the Motivation Regen rates, level up. As the chart in the help section shows, higher levels gain motivation faster. The increases in motivation come quick once you start leveling up.
As for Premium services - have you looked at the costs? The member price for Runescape and other "free" games is comparable, or more than the costs for Muelsfell. I think that there are a lot of cosmetic or ease of use benefits that the Premium service offers, but Muelsfell is very playable without them. |
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| Daniel Posts: 102
Location: Last Alvia Dawning
Magus Age: 114 years old
Real Name: Daniel
| Message #1139 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 2:17 pm |
Premium is a nice feature, I think it acts more like a 'donate to the maker' option than a full up bonus. I like the premium options, They're improvements on playing normally without getting oh so uber. I don't need extra motivation, increased resources damage or hit points and the like. Those have to be earned, You shouldn't get things for free.
The three 'free' items in the premium shop are fine though, Two of them are more like replacements for lost items and the lottery ticket is only a chance to win (once the feature comes out).
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| Aethian Posts: 17
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #1162 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 9:47 pm |
So Xolah...you do realize that this game is still in Beta right? As in...the game is not finished. I paid, because I would have still donated. It doesn't get me many perks over not paying but I like to think of it as my way to help the game creator, whom I believe is doing this solo, to pay for the bandwith we take and for the time we take him from other things happening in his life.
You don't like the newbie stats...then level up. We all had to start at the bottom and when you figure when you start this game your a NEW magus with their first golem your not going to be all powerful. Your not going to know how to rest properly to get back your motivation back quicker. You have to LEARN how to do that. And when you level you have learned how to expand your power to expand your range and how to make higher level golems.
So look at it more as rp fodder rather then witch about it because you want things NOW instead of working for it. |
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| deathpunk Posts: 154
Location: Nournsland
Magus Age: 117 years old
| Message #1163 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 9:52 pm |
To agree with everyone(i think) before me, premium is fine how it is. A free game should not be a free-unless-you-want-to-survive-game.
So premium should just be to make things a bit easier, like it is now. |
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| Gryficus Posts: 239
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #1170 Posted: Apr 9, 2008, 11:25 pm |
lets not forget, as well, that this is still BETA
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XolahPosts: 18 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #1185 Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 3:48 am |
| I'm aware this is in beta,@whoever was starting sparks:You can stop now this is a discussion thread not a place for flame wars (and also trachial meer cat colonies) Last bit unrelated <b>~^X^~</b> |
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| Tridia Posts: 12
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 111 years old
| Message #1188 Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 10:50 am |
What flame war? Just because you have more then one person backing up the game how it already is to your view on how you want it to be easier is not a flame war. Views are being made by individuals.
This is a game with more rp background then some of the others out there. You claim yourself to be experienced in the ways of these games but yet I believe (in other words MY OPINION) that you do not understand what this particular game is trying to be. IE More realistic then those others out there.
My character is a young magus who is currently running well ahead of her age but still struggles to keep up with the big boys and girls. Is this because she is young or is it because she is inexperienced to the ways of the politics. Right now that answer is known only to her and what if it turns out she turns out to be a very gifted magus and can one day take down the big boys and girls with a little amased army?
That my dear Xolah is role playing. And just before you decide that other posters her are against you and call flame war, which is a childish thing to do in my view, maybe you should take a good hard look and see if this is the game for you now. As stated times before this game is in BETA and perhaps not ready to be yet viewed by someone who can't seem to handle that fact. Or your just not cut out for the amount of role play features that are here to make us have to work to get better and more powerful rather then just hitting farmers or pick pocketing farmers to get seeds and coins. |
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XolahPosts: 18 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #1199 Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 9:59 pm |
| *points to bandwagon That is what i'm talking about but enough of the lols, if you want to press the opinions on off topic things plox start a new thread. I'm sure I could bring the /LULZ/ if you insist on going of topic. I'm giving the game a longer shot as suggested and exploring the current functions and abilities for another 28 hours and then comparing it to the experience without it. I'll be back with more 2 centses. |
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| Aethian Posts: 17
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #1203 Posted: Apr 10, 2008, 11:56 pm |
| Xolah said:
*points to bandwagon That is what i'm talking about but enough of the lols, if you want to press the opinions on off topic things plox start a new thread. I'm sure I could bring the /LULZ/ if you insist on going of topic. I'm giving the game a longer shot as suggested and exploring the current functions and abilities for another 28 hours and then comparing it to the experience without it. I'll be back with more 2 centses.
*sighs softly* We have put forth proper reasons as to why we believe that the game is fine as it is. You state that you are an adult at least by age. Please act like it.
Mis spelling words, placing them improperly, and then trying to make us look like the idiots is horribly backfiring. Right now all I can do is laugh at your attempt and at you. |
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| Tibba Posts: 9
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 117 years old
| Message #1207 Posted: Apr 11, 2008, 2:24 am |
I liked the three days of free premium, from what I saw the benefits were all things I'd use. But, I also enjoy playing without premium services. I don't feel handicapped by not having them. So, I think the balance between the two is pretty good right now.
I have seen LOTS of games with micropayments for things like +1000 of a resource or auto-complete everything currently in your construction queue or permanent +1 to a stat - and I can't say how well those work because I honestly never bothered to pay for things like that. "Donations for big one-time benefits" is less my style than "subscribe for persistent small benefits". Micropayments are just . . meh.
'Course that's just my opinion.
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On a completely unrelated note, saying 'man you're sooo lame' is not a good way to convince someone that you're just being reasonable and not hostile. Also, fighting nastiness with anger/scorn just gets the whole thread icky. Any more comments on the idea of abolishing premium services, or should we all just 1) agree that we feel strongly about whatever side we take, and 2) drop the subject since the game-owner has heard the arguments on both sides and will make the final decision?
'Course, again, just my opinion and y'all are free to do whatever. Personally I don't think I have anything else useful or important to say here so I'm shutting up for now.
Have fun, stay safe, and kick some golem butt ;) |
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