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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #34608 Posted: Aug 8, 2009, 9:44 pm |
To support higher level creatures, a capacity-related treasure tweak went live today.
Previously, capacity could reduce the loot scored from a kill to potentially zero. Now you are guaranteed 50% of the random roll regardless of capacity. The remaining 50% can be reduced to nothing depending on capacity.
This was done because there are some powerful upcoming creatures that will require golems to be loaded down with weaponry and armour. It hardly seemed fair to make players go through that effort only to drag back a pittance afterwards!
This change ONLY affects loot from creatures. Looting a player's workshop continues to work as before (meaning you can still get little to none if your golem has no room for carrying treasure).
In addition, there were some minor bug fixes (empty ammo weapons firing once) and messaging adjustments.
Kep |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #34633 Posted: Aug 9, 2009, 3:51 pm |
| I don't think I am seeing any difference based on this update, still getting negligible treasure while carrying a load. |
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AnriPosts: 229 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ADV Real Name: Lily
| Message #34636 Posted: Aug 9, 2009, 5:51 pm |
Ditto...
Loaded my homunculus down with armour till he was at 100% load, and then took him vs a creature. He didn't bring back anything. |
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XorphitusPosts: 182 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: HAVOC | Message #34785 Posted: Aug 12, 2009, 2:09 pm |
I finally shot down the last high end monsters, and the new treasure rule seemed to work for the wraith, but not the slime and the bonewalker:
You found 4 gold coins and 4 nuggets of adamantine.
You found 15 gold coins, 10 bars of gold, 8 bars of silver, 15 coils of copper and 15 bottles of glass. |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #34810 Posted: Aug 12, 2009, 10:48 pm |
Hrm, well, after laidan and Anri's comments, I made a further adjustment. This was a global treasure change, so it shouldn't have affected only certain creatures... I suspect the treasure drops by those creatures may not be high enough to begin with.
Kep |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #34832 Posted: Aug 13, 2009, 3:02 pm |
Fighting the giant with 110 lbs free I got
You found 290 gold coins, 102 pouches of gems and 179 nuggets of adamantine.
(this seemed like a low roll for gold, got about 400 the previous time)
With 18 lbs free (same golem, more armor) I got
You found 36 gold coins and 36 nuggets of adamantine.
Similar experience with the spined troll, scared to try the wraith without a pile of armor. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #35404 Posted: Aug 24, 2009, 9:59 pm |
Woo, and suddenly the spined troll is giving me almost 10x the loot it was earlier :D
Edit: Slime loot is now really nice, but tried the wraith and got:You found 38 gold coins. Ick.Last Edited: Aug 24, 2009, 10:45 pm |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #35417 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 12:50 am |
Yup, I found the problem and fixed it a couple hours ago. :)
[Edit] And the wraith's treasure type was apparently not live. It's live now. :P
KepLast Edited: Aug 25, 2009, 12:52 am |
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| GordonIronsmith Posts: 434
Location: Broukendale
Magus Age: 113 years old
| Message #35418 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 1:26 am |
| Well with 10% load I grabbed 550 Coinage, 150 bars of sliver, and 463 Nuggets of adamantine. I'd say that's more in line :D with how much damage it can do. (The fight lasted 1 round but it inflicted 173 damage.) |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #35453 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 1:47 pm |
I kinda like the wraith
Results: Brittle did 228 dmg while a temporal wraith did 0 dmg.
You earned 10 xp.
Your golem will be back at your workshop in 1 min 30 sec.
Looted: You found 631 gold coins, 238 bars of silver and 415 nuggets of adamantine. |
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JohanvonderploegPosts: 338 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #35454 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 1:51 pm |
It's cool.
Clay Golem did 240 dmg while a temporal wraith did 0 dmg.
You earned 10 xp.
Your golem will be back at your workshop in 3 min .
Looted:
You found 942 gold coins, 297 bars of silver and 761 pouches of gems. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #35460 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 2:27 pm |
Ranged weapons:P Wish I could get through that combat with 0 damage, but I don't think it'll ever happen.
Edit: And the troll is back to giving almost no loot while weighed down.Last Edited: Aug 25, 2009, 2:51 pm |
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DonJuanDeBascobelPosts: 450 Location: Rimesvin Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #35484 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 8:58 pm |
| Agreed, the troll has been very stingy lately. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #35485 Posted: Aug 25, 2009, 9:21 pm |
| Seems like it got fixed again shortly after I mentioned it this morning |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #37039 Posted: Sep 26, 2009, 12:15 am |
| I just killed the new Dragon in the northeast corner, got nothing the first time, then 25 coins. That's with almost zero weight free, but I should still be getting half the loot, correct? |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #37043 Posted: Sep 26, 2009, 2:02 am |
| Have to remember, dragons are greedy. Even the dead ones... |
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| GordonIronsmith Posts: 434
Location: Broukendale
Magus Age: 113 years old
| Message #37044 Posted: Sep 26, 2009, 2:03 am |
| Which dragon cause the one in Icerush dropped plenty. |
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| NomNomNom Posts: 41
Location: Hans Mina
Magus Age: 139 years old
| Message #39097 Posted: Nov 13, 2009, 4:39 am |
| I mentioned this elsewhere but it didn't seem to get any attention...I've been fighting the mountain giant with a 0 capacity left over golem for a few days and haven't gotten any treasure. Either my understanding of the tweak is wrong or I'm not getting the 50% that's supposed to be independent of capacity. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #39154 Posted: Nov 13, 2009, 10:51 pm |
| I believe I already replied where you already mentioned it NomNomNom: You're not supposed to get any loot when you have 0 capacity left. |
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| NomNomNom Posts: 41
Location: Hans Mina
Magus Age: 139 years old
| Message #39167 Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 4:29 am |
| Necaria provided a link rather than screaming... http://www.muelsfell.com/world/map_community.php?msg=37192 helps clear up confusion for future readers. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #39171 Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 5:10 am |
| Psh, nobody was screaming. Though I was mildly irritated at posting the same question again elsewhere when people were responding to your thread. |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40234 Posted: Dec 10, 2009, 3:18 pm |
Julie did 243 dmg while a dark kobold godslayer did 121 dmg.
You earned 10 xp.
Your golem will be back at your workshop in 1 min 7 sec.
Looted: You didn't find any treasure on the dark kobold godslayer.
Looks like the treasure tweak is broke on the dark kobold godslayer. Should this go in the bug report forum?Last Edited: Dec 10, 2009, 3:19 pm |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40241 Posted: Dec 10, 2009, 5:54 pm |
| From what I understand having 0 capacity means 0 treasure. I believe this tweak was that having, say, 2lbs capacity doesn't also result in 0 treasure. |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40244 Posted: Dec 10, 2009, 6:56 pm |
| I see, I was at 0 capacity. Removed some armor on the second time around and got iron and LIP. Last Edited: Dec 10, 2009, 6:59 pm |
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TyphonPosts: 256 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 104 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40690 Posted: Dec 23, 2009, 6:35 pm |
| I'm having issues with Gwendolyn. She's only dropping about 350 of everything and I have 55 lbs freeT the golem is a transmuted Iron > Wood, so it has an Iron Golem's carrying capacity. My Clay Golem gets at least 3 times the treasure haul with more than 50% carrying used. Any ideas? |
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