| Author | Thread: Golem Size Upgrade |
SoujiPosts: 1376 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 116 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #35950 Posted: Sep 2, 2009, 8:38 pm |
Currently we can make golem from Level 1-5 so long as we have that knowledge researched in the library. We can make various size golems depending on their level is Levels 1 and 2 are small, levels 3 and 4 are medium, and level 5 is large.
We also have the hacksaw to remove parts from golem and upgrade those sections. i.e. level 1 chest with level 5 pelvis and abdomen.
There should be and option to Increase the Size/Level of your golems at the cost of resources. I would suggest that the cost be 1.5 to 2x's the original cost of the upgrade.
For instance:
You build a level one Clay golem and strength boost it so that you can wear more armor and take more loot. (You built that golem because you didn't have the ability at the time to make a larger one because your library was lacking.) Now that you are higher level and have more knowledge you would like to have a level 3, or even level 5, Clay golem to have more HP and Slots and longer Reach. However you have already spent your precious EXP on strength boosting to just to is go to waste.
So being able to increase the size of your golems would really help out on not losing that hard to earn EXP. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 113 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #35959 Posted: Sep 2, 2009, 10:24 pm |
| Heh, way back in the day, burning xp was the ONLY way to increase size. |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #35961 Posted: Sep 2, 2009, 10:33 pm |
| Yeah, but that was back when reach didn't do anything. : () ) |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #35970 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 2:15 am |
| I'm with you Souji! Making my power-homunculus larger would make me very happy! I'd willingly pay additional costs in gold, iron, anything, to make that chest larger. |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #35976 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 2:58 am |
I think that if another way of increasing size is added, the homunculus should be exempted, or at least lose it's special repair cost if it's upgraded.
The homunculus is designed to help new players, currently the only thing keeping them from being incredibly dominant is that they can't fit an Ouroborus, which makes weight matter a lot more. |
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NecariaPosts: 505 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 115 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #35982 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 5:07 am |
| Item clans can give it an improved steam engine if it's strength enhanced I'm pretty sure. Plus it's still just a flesh golem. If cheap repair was all it took to be dominant no-one would use secondary resource golems. Not saying it's necessarily a good idea, haven't thought about it too hard, but your reasoning for making it exempt is rather exaggerated. |
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NaelwynPosts: 209 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: OTAKU2 | Message #35984 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 5:19 am |
| Though it's a little off the main topic, the homunculus can in fact be transmuted like any other flesh golem. Half repair costs on brass looks a lot better than half on flesh, neh? The con being if you leave whatever alch clan you transmute it in, your homunculus stays. |
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| Xlrate Posts: 232
Location: Rildesjan
Magus Age: 108 years old
| Message #35986 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 5:35 am |
| Naelwyn said:
Though it's a little off the main topic, the homunculus can in fact be transmuted like any other flesh golem. Half repair costs on brass looks a lot better than half on flesh, neh? The con being if you leave whatever alch clan you transmute it in, your homunculus stays.
I advise everybody to turn their stone golems into gem golems...... |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: ADV | Message #35995 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 12:20 pm |
| Xlrate said:
I advise everybody to turn their stone golems into gem golems......
That's a GREAT idea! I'll just hop over and convert five or six...
...er ... waitaminute...
... you didn't say "trust me". Nope. Not gonna. |
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NaelwynPosts: 209 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: OTAKU2 | Message #36012 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 4:25 pm |
You currently can't turn stones into gems or glass for balance reasons If I'm not mistaken. (And I know I'm not, so blargh.)
Picture a gem or glass golem with 475 encumbrance capacity. That is why the transmute funcionality on those two is disabled. |
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| Xlrate Posts: 232
Location: Rildesjan
Magus Age: 108 years old
| Message #36021 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 6:30 pm |
| Naelwyn said:
You currently can't turn stones into gems or glass for balance reasons If I'm not mistaken. (And I know I'm not, so blargh.)
Picture a gem or glass golem with 475 encumbrance capacity. That is why the transmute funcionality on those two is disabled.
We will have to get that fixed. I mean, there should be some advantage to running an alch clan. |
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NaelwynPosts: 209 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: OTAKU2 | Message #36023 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 7:02 pm |
Well, there's bronze, brass, and copper golems available at the ECL of fleshies or with the capacity of clay golems (If you play your cards right.)
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #36025 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 7:04 pm |
| Actually, they have the ECL of a bronze, brass, or copper. I've demolished many of them in the past. |
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NaelwynPosts: 209 Location: Hans Mina Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: OTAKU2 | Message #36040 Posted: Sep 3, 2009, 8:05 pm |
Huh. Must've changed at some point.
Edit 1: Are you sure? The ECL display in the worktable may be off.
Edit 2: The above was not clear, I mean: the ECL display in my worktable when viewing a transmuted golem may be off, because it reads the same pre and post transmute.
Edit 3: Gah. Can someone test this possible bug? I haven't had my hands on a transmute for a while nor can I switch to an alch clan to confirm the change.
Looking for: Displayed ECL in workshop, Calculated ECL from a fight.Last Edited: Sep 3, 2009, 8:10 pm |
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ShanPosts: 589 Location: Arzenbourg Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #36061 Posted: Sep 4, 2009, 1:05 am |
It's been a while since I last checked this, but, if memory serves, transmuted golems have their original ECL when used in an attack, but they have the ECL of their transmuted type when defending.
In the workshop it displays the same as the original ECL, and it uses that ECL when fighting monsters, at least. |
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SoujiPosts: 1376 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 116 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #36072 Posted: Sep 4, 2009, 1:07 pm |
| If I remember right I think Shan is correct. |
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