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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #41453 Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 4:13 pm |
| SkitzYie said:
Would be awesome is WE could access transmutes like that :P
More like... ridiculously overpowered, unless all other clans also got huge buffs :P |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41454 Posted: Jan 15, 2010, 6:08 pm |
| Rednaxela said:
More like... ridiculously overpowered, unless all other clans also got huge buffs :P
Life isn't always fair eh' :)
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KennethPosts: 133 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41466 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 1:06 am |
Narimasa the Elemental Dragon rears up on his haunches and executes a solemn bow to your golem. "A worthy and formidable foe. You have my respect." With a waving gesture of one of his substantial front paws, the dragon slowly fades from sight.
Yay! I finally did it, although I (literally) had to pay an arm and a leg. I bet if I strength-boosted more I could do a lot better, though.
It's so tedious, though. 750 exp. just to increase the dmg. bonus by 1. At this rate I'll never level up! Last Edited: Jan 16, 2010, 3:31 pm |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41469 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 2:05 am |
Gratz!
Any loot drop?
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KennethPosts: 133 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41478 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 3:32 pm |
| *sigh* nope. the hardest creature to beat doesn't drop any loot at all, except for his blessing, but I didn't get that either. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #41480 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 4:42 pm |
| Kenneth said:
*sigh* nope. the hardest creature to beat doesn't drop any loot at all, except for his blessing, but I didn't get that either. Not quite just the blessing. Also drops Sissel-loot if you know what I mean... |
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KennethPosts: 133 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41481 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 4:49 pm |
| you mean the noodle bowl? |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41482 Posted: Jan 16, 2010, 5:00 pm |
| Yep, Atropos confirmed that as well in some messages we exchanged. |
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HalfteaPosts: 1307 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 139 years old Clan: ADV | Message #41488 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 3:27 am |
| Wow. That was tougher than I thought. Bone 5 with boosted strength and clay 5 parts with Elephant strength spell. Seems hit or miss though. Won the first, lost the next three in a row. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #41492 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 5:26 am |
| Wow, non-transmute bone5... that's smaller than I'd expect to work... then again clan armor makes that much much easier |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41498 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 3:45 pm |
I bet a boosted iron 5 with slayblade and:
Golem gets +10% accuracy, +40 strength against living or blessed opponents. Castable on Golems Only.
[Motivation Cost: 15]
Warning: Casting this spell requires you to be evil aligned.
would do the trick well. |
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HalfteaPosts: 1307 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 139 years old Clan: ADV | Message #41499 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 4:14 pm |
| Wow, non-transmute bone5... that's smaller than I'd expect to work... then again clan armor makes that much much easier
It did help, even boosted, the required armour weight for me to be comfortable I was getting only strength damage was getting pretty tight. Although I think the Shield it carried was more immediate help.
Although unlike Atropos's Hate of Fate, I take anywhere from 450-600+ damage per attempt.
I disagree the dragons need tweaked up however, they are difficult enough using Clan items, I think they should remain among things non-Clan magi can attain.
The Elemental Lords sound like they fall under the heading of things you need to be in a Clan to kill, that's probably enough. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #41501 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 5:21 pm |
| Halftea said:
Although unlike Atropos's Hate of Fate, I take anywhere from 450-600+ damage per attempt.
About the same here really.
Halftea said:
I disagree the dragons need tweaked up however, they are difficult enough using Clan items, I think they should remain among things non-Clan magi can attain.
Yeah, ranged/spell clan is completely useless except that flying anvil substitutes elephant strength with an equal degree of effectiveness. Therefore... my build is basically what it would take a non-clan magi to beat it, proving it's possible, but barely. Also showing how some clan types are totally useless against fast high-resist melee-using creatures. |
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NecariaPosts: 505 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41503 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 8:55 pm |
Caerula definitely needs to be tweaked at least. Since they're in a marsh, using a clay 5 makes for really minimal repair costs, and it drops(or dropped at least, I haven't done it in ages cause the return times are too high for me) 2 different types of good food as well as copious amounts of resources.
Also I would argue that anything named shouldn't be something that people want to farm just on principle. Gets a little weird if one specific monster is being thrashed hundreds of times a day. This could be accomplished by only being able to attack them say once an in game day(with the possible exception of Sissel), or give them loot like Narimasa(which is to say just rare item drops) if nothing else. The other named dragon's hoards have got to be pretty depleted by this point anyway having totally destroyed the value of gems and adamantine:PLast Edited: Jan 17, 2010, 8:56 pm |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 115 years old
| Message #41504 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 9:06 pm |
| I think she has been tweaked, in that she doesn't drop scales anymore. At least it would seem that way. |
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NecariaPosts: 505 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41505 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 9:27 pm |
| In my opinion scales aren't the problem. They're the weakest of the scales with some pretty sizable elemental gaps in it's protection, good armor, but hardly game changing. It's the food(making for a big motivation lead over fighting anything else) and the amount of resources it drops causing them to become totally devalued. Gems are barely worth more than money these days. |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 115 years old
| Message #41507 Posted: Jan 17, 2010, 10:12 pm |
Definitely hear what you're saying. Sorry, re-read my post and it definitely sounded like I had missed your point.
With the introduction of Caerula, the value of Iron has pretty much surpassed addy and gems. Though it's sounding like that may even out once the elementals are introduced as it seems like all addy limbs will be needed to avoid an instant failure. It also is starting to sound like level 5 golems of any sort are just barely adequate to take any of them down... |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41544 Posted: Jan 20, 2010, 7:47 pm |
I finally beat Narisama, and I got
Looted: You found 337 gold coins, 202 pouches of gems and 264 nuggets of adamantine.
I guess it's technically better than nothing, but it's kinda insulting when you get 5x (ish) that from some of the other dragons with similar free capacity.
As for buffing dragons...I don't know. Caerula is definitely the easiest one, way less repairs than fighting Jet Wang or any of the other dragons, but still get's painful if you're not using a fully clay5. |
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HalfteaPosts: 1307 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 139 years old Clan: ADV | Message #41552 Posted: Jan 21, 2010, 12:39 am |
| Naramissa actually drops loot now? I guess we get something besides a sense of accomplishment now. :) But yeah, a little too touch to farm for those items. Easier to do it in other ways. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #41611 Posted: Jan 22, 2010, 2:00 pm |
| I'm still going for Nari's blessing. It's awfully slow-going though when I'm 15 moti away from Narimasa, and the addy repair costs are enormous. |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41612 Posted: Jan 22, 2010, 2:21 pm |
| I'm working on a new golem for this. lvl 5 Iron to Bone. See how this one goes.... |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #43163 Posted: Apr 1, 2010, 10:13 pm |
| I'm up to (roughly) 60 kills on Nari now... still no blessing :( |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #43275 Posted: Apr 5, 2010, 8:44 pm |
| And based on the conversation around the new elementals, I'm wondering how heavy the blessing is. I've been running with 40-70ish lbs free, but I'd be bummed if I missed my shot based on that... |
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HalfteaPosts: 1307 Location: Darghelm Magus Age: 139 years old Clan: ADV | Message #43284 Posted: Apr 5, 2010, 11:48 pm |
| I was under the impression that the blessing weight would be kinda like the magical energy or foodstuffs. Not applicable until after you had it. |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #43287 Posted: Apr 6, 2010, 12:34 am |
This could be a fluke, but I burned ~100 moti attacking the earth elemental today with under 250 pounds free.
I tweaked my set up to over 250 free and I received the shield drop after 2 attacks. The shield weighs 250 pounds.
Hopefully Kep will weigh in on this, does your golem need to have enough carry capacity open to equip an item to get the drop? |
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