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| drackmore Posts: 234
Location: Zion's Reach
Magus Age: 115 years old
Real Name: Gino Drake
| Message #39542 Posted: Nov 20, 2009, 9:31 pm |
Yamikuronue said: drackmore said:
my pride ahas been hurt almost as bad as my golem
C31-MysticCove did 0 dmg while a sand dragon did 424 dmg Glad to see the golem we sold you is doing well >.>. If anyone else wants an armoured clay golem see me ^_^
yes the golem works fine all in all but i think ill stick with fighting my usual lot. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #39709 Posted: Nov 23, 2009, 7:10 pm |
| I don't know if anyone else is even trying, but I've been fighting Akhen a lot lately, aiming for scales naturally. I must have won 60 battles by now, gotten a boatload of hardtack, some salt porks, spent a ridiculous amount in repairs, and have not found a single scale. So my question is has anyone else found one lately? Am I just so unlucky it's silly? Probably, but at this point I feel compelled to see if he still drops the things. |
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JoachimPosts: 208 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: STEAM Real Name: Walt
| Message #39710 Posted: Nov 23, 2009, 7:34 pm |
| He dropped one for me last night...after 18 won fights. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #39739 Posted: Nov 24, 2009, 2:09 am |
| I've every once in a while had similar dry spells with Caerula's scales, though only once was quite that long. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #39982 Posted: Dec 1, 2009, 6:49 pm |
| So...didn't someone say the dragons were supposed to be getting harder a couple weeks ago? |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 124 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #39996 Posted: Dec 2, 2009, 2:13 am |
Maybe? I haven't noticed, but then I've switched over to the Fire Dragon for both kicks and variety. Side note, I have a new clothing item for sale...
http://daryoon.hopto.org/mediawiki/index.php/Salamander_cloa k |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #39997 Posted: Dec 2, 2009, 2:57 am |
| Caerula is no harder than before Kae. Anyways yeah, Atropos did mention something about making the weaker of the named dragons tougher. Nothing yet though it seems. |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 124 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #40060 Posted: Dec 4, 2009, 1:59 am |
... just checking, but we're sure that the dragons aren't going to be nerfed right?
Valadin did 266 dmg while Caerula the Frost Dragon did 5 dmg. The wet, marshy ground allows Valadin to recover 25 damage to its right arm, chest and left hand.
And that took a whole two rounds to do. Sure, I have ice scales and the ice resist spell on but still. I just handed a freaking dragon her... tail. |
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AtroposPosts: 94 Location: Daylsfeld Magus Age: 138 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #40061 Posted: Dec 4, 2009, 2:30 am |
While I don't think Cae has been nerfed...
Aw hell...
I really didn't think the dragons would be plowed through that fast. (Well, I did, other people didn't).
Greater challenges are in the testing/debug phase as we speak.
An upgrade to the dragons (Most importantly Caerula) will be coming soon.
They do learn and get cheezed off, you know.
Good luck! Hopefully you aren't the first person to test em. (Updates usually come out silently.)
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^_^. (Oh boy will THIS be fun.) |
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XorphitusPosts: 182 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 128 years old Clan: HAVOC | Message #40069 Posted: Dec 4, 2009, 9:36 am |
| Well, you know. The dragons are only easily beaten by magi with powerful ranged weapons. Everyone depending on close combat has to go through some rounds of nasty breath attacks before reaching them. So the dragons should be nerfed against ranged attacks mainly, perhaps blurring themselves or getting some sort of missle-dodge ;P |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #40071 Posted: Dec 4, 2009, 1:47 pm |
We ranged people only have an easy time against Caerula and Eithne really Xorph.... Against the likes of Gwenny and espescially Akhen, we're basically as helpless as anyone else...
Actually.... I kind of suspect that defense clans would also have a really easy time against Caerula and Eithne for various reasons if they did things right...Last Edited: Dec 4, 2009, 1:51 pm |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #40077 Posted: Dec 4, 2009, 3:15 pm |
| Caerula especially is not all that bad in repairs even for a melee clan, as long as you can minimize the breath weapon damage. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #40095 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 2:22 am |
| Hmm... and just now I got no ice cream during a full trip of over 20 Caerula-hits for the first time. Normally get at least a few. Caerula doesn't seem any harder though... so I'll assume that was a coincidence, and not a change. |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 124 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #40097 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 2:34 am |
| The dragons are only easily beaten by magi with powerful ranged weapons. Everyone depending on close combat has to go through some rounds of nasty breath attacks before reaching them.
Actually, I get about the same results without a weapon as I do with. It's not so much the weapon as the fact that I have so much armor on Valadin that he mins the breath to 1 damage a hit and her claws to down to 11. Sure, the damage is a bit more, but the swamp heals him nearly to full anyway. So it's more having a clay5 that's fully outfitted (including strength boosting) than anything else.
And then there's Gwen. Ten full rounds of breath weapon at 100+ ft means ranged is just as pointless as everyone else. Stupid dragon. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #40100 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 3:21 am |
| Kaelas said:
And then there's Gwen. Ten full rounds of breath weapon at 100+ ft means ranged is just as pointless as everyone else. Stupid dragon.
Well... we do have oneeee weapon that can reach past 100ft... and that one can hit hard enough... |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 124 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #40101 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 3:29 am |
| Sure, but the rate of fire is just horrible and the ammo is hard to keep in stock at five per bundle so... I'll stick with my repeater dart tube and just hunt Caer until the movement bug is firmly squished. That should make Gwen doable, if still hard. |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 128 years old Clan: ADV | Message #40118 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 3:37 pm |
| Xorphitus said:
Well, you know. The dragons are only easily beaten by magi with powerful ranged weapons. Everyone depending on close combat has to go through some rounds of nasty breath attacks before reaching them. So the dragons should be nerfed against ranged attacks mainly, perhaps blurring themselves or getting some sort of missle-dodge ;P Akhenaten was the troublesome one, and Gwendolyn took a L5 copper and was very costly in repairs. I don't remember struggling with the other two, probably overkilled with the L5 copper. |
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XorphitusPosts: 182 Location: Rildesjan Magus Age: 128 years old Clan: HAVOC | Message #40121 Posted: Dec 5, 2009, 4:03 pm |
Ah ok. I thought Gwendolyn just backed up all time and you could possibly never really reach her. This is good news.
Akhenaten is tough for sure, has good resistances and has really a lot of hps. My admantium golem failed miserably against him, due to the lowered hit chances (why oh why do adamantine golems miss so much?), so he did not do enough hits to kill him. My lvl 5 Iron Golem got a frostbite spell and needed two runs to batter Akhenaten. Costly? For sure, but no body part was ripped off, thanks to all those heavy iron plates and perhaps a bit of luck.
Guess I will use a gemstone golem against Gwendolyn, I got the slight bad feeling my Iron Golem will be too slow to reach her and she will flee him easily. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 117 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40141 Posted: Dec 6, 2009, 2:41 pm |
| If you're going the non-ranged way, the only thing I've gotten good damage in with is my level 5 glass golem coated in ice dragon scales and copper banding. The chest would do better with 2 mercurial dragon scales, but I haven't been able to close AND kill her cuz of the movement bug. With glass(and gemstone) speed, you can close in just a couple rounds and start whupping bigtime(especially with a good slicing weapon attached to a glass golem hehe) |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 126 years old
| Message #40144 Posted: Dec 6, 2009, 4:06 pm |
| If the glass5 isn't strength boosted, how about try boosting it's strength? That would probably make a very huge difference. Or perhaps an elemental attack spell which doesn't match the elements of the dragon in question? |
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KyomiPosts: 274 Location: Andulaz Magus Age: 130 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #40147 Posted: Dec 6, 2009, 9:32 pm |
My wood5 chest, stone limbs, and iron headed golem does quite well on the mercurial dragon. I lose a fair amount of arms, but I use brass knuckles and a sonic damage spell, and armor everything with a heavy plate and copper banding.
That was at first... Now, it has a mercurial scale everywhere, and light plate. Once it closes the gap (not too hard, but sometimes doesn't) it beats the absolute stuffing out of the dragon.
Repair costs are a wee bit high (see under massive limb loss) so when I did hunt it, it was a once a week thing. |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #41020 Posted: Jan 4, 2010, 5:58 pm |
Adding in Narimasa...anyone else try their luck yet? I got thoroughly trounced, lost my 100 strength clay5 with a full compliment of heavy plate and some dragon scales...Owie.
Edited for spellingLast Edited: Jan 4, 2010, 7:16 pm |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 118 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41023 Posted: Jan 4, 2010, 6:11 pm |
| Ranged weapons are ineffective, I can pass that along. Narisima appears to be too quick. Had a lvl 5 wood on hangback, Narisima was hitting me in the second round. Had 3 rounds I actually attacked due to being too close. |
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DonJuanDeBascobelPosts: 450 Location: Rimesvin Magus Age: 117 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #41025 Posted: Jan 4, 2010, 7:12 pm |
| Just as a baseline, if this helps just for information's sake, I sent an unarmored flesh1 probe against Narisima. 206 damage critical hit for the first one and a 100 damage hit for the second. |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 115 years old
| Message #41027 Posted: Jan 4, 2010, 7:14 pm |
I was thinking this might work: Skytzie, you and ARROW can make calcified golems, so I was thinking a level 5 clay to bone, full armor and strength boost. Bone to combat the energy drain. It IS 50% desert there.
That's my idea so far. I'm not even going to bother quite yet since we were getting over 200 damage criticals on our flesh bag test probes. |
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