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MustafaDeValdemarPosts: 235 Location: Rimesvin Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: ARROW Email: valdemar23@yahoo.com
| Message #38274 Posted: Oct 20, 2009, 4:35 pm |
I may just be running into a string of bad luck, but I haven't seen Smoked Cheese dropping from the Spined Troll anymore. I used to get at least 2-3 per day, sometimes fewer, but always at least 1 every 1-2 days. However, I have gone more than a week without seeing any cheese at all. :( Any thoughts? :), MdV |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #38276 Posted: Oct 20, 2009, 4:51 pm |
I got 1 on Sunday... Edit: To clarify, they do seem more rare, but I have been fighting the dragons most days, so I may be imagining it.Last Edited: Oct 20, 2009, 5:02 pm |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38278 Posted: Oct 20, 2009, 6:10 pm |
I don't think so I've been farmnig it a lot (mostly for the 10 exp) and over the last about 2 weeks i've gotten 2 cheese. The drop rate looks to have been nerfed. |
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TzadkielPosts: 596 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 130 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #38315 Posted: Oct 22, 2009, 1:31 pm |
I got 5 today, so... May be some secret mechanics with Encumbrance. A Clay1 will do just fine covered in only reinforced chain - with all my other toys, I am only at 41%. |
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MustafaDeValdemarPosts: 235 Location: Rimesvin Magus Age: 127 years old Clan: ARROW Email: valdemar23@yahoo.com
| Message #38321 Posted: Oct 22, 2009, 5:28 pm |
I'm using a Clay1 with Reinforced Chain on the chest only, and a Flamewood Longbow with Etched Focus Crystal. 28% load. Still no cheese. :( Does the weapon used to attack modify the loot dropped? |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #38326 Posted: Oct 22, 2009, 6:36 pm |
Yes, Kep hates ranged. </sarcasm> |
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TzadkielPosts: 596 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 130 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #38361 Posted: Oct 23, 2009, 5:46 pm |
just realized that in a shuffle I had forgotten to even arm my strength enhanced Clay1. Just burning aura. Weapon is clearly unnecessary as I typically go 10-15 rounds between repairs. Got 5 more cheese today. |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38364 Posted: Oct 23, 2009, 6:20 pm |
Ya who did you sign a deal with... |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #38366 Posted: Oct 23, 2009, 7:40 pm |
Devil's Advocate: "Now...if you'll just sign here..." |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #38368 Posted: Oct 23, 2009, 7:50 pm |
I can see the headlines now: "I sold my soul for cheese, the Ironsmith story" |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38376 Posted: Oct 24, 2009, 12:31 am |
lol for cheese Yay right. I might Sell Gordon soul for level 250 ;) and the Motivation that come with it. |
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TzadkielPosts: 596 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 130 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #38447 Posted: Oct 26, 2009, 1:11 pm |
Good point on that - I have purchased over 100 points of motivation with XP - so a daily hike to the Troll lair is more than 50 combats. Coming away with 5 cheeze suggests approx a 10% drop rate (or a very good day on something much less) |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38452 Posted: Oct 26, 2009, 6:09 pm |
Ya Um I get about 30-40 trips in a day. and I've been getting nothing for cheese. |
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JoachimPosts: 208 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: STEAM Real Name: Walt
| Message #38454 Posted: Oct 26, 2009, 6:24 pm |
Checked it out this morning. I whacked the troll a dozen times and left with 2 cheeses. I'll post on my clan's forum and see if I can get other members to go cheese hunting and see what they come up with. |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38464 Posted: Oct 27, 2009, 12:36 am |
Ya I got one today. maybe it was just a phase... |
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ElvisPosts: 4 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 133 years old Clan: STEAM | Message #38465 Posted: Oct 27, 2009, 12:45 am |
I went round with the Spined Troll 22 times. I bagged 4 cheese. |
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NinomaiPosts: 41 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 121 years old Clan: STEAM Real Name: sara
| Message #38469 Posted: Oct 27, 2009, 2:33 am |
i attacked the troll 20 times. i only got 1 cheese. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 117 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #38500 Posted: Oct 28, 2009, 1:43 pm |
All these numbers suggest to me a 20% chance, like was stated earlier. Of course, chaos being how it is, some days 40 can go by with no cheese, but it'll even out down the road. |
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Sconibulus Posts: 664 Location: Shuul Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #38501 Posted: Oct 28, 2009, 2:11 pm |
Where did you get 20% chance? I'm pretty sure not even a single person in this thread has reported drop rates that high. Tzad's idea of a 10% chance seems much more likely, looking at the limited datapoints on the thread, although, if you guys really want to continue this we could move it over to the discussion page for smoked cheese on the wiki, make a table of everyone's hunting (who chooses to participate) every day, and the number of cheeses dropped. Then we can, much like we did with golem limb targetting percentages, work out a rate within a fairly small margin of error. |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38520 Posted: Oct 28, 2009, 7:11 pm |
For me it works out to be 3-6% Not any where near 20% I think I bagged six cheeses one day, but I haven't been getting lots so It cannot be higher the 10% |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 117 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #38538 Posted: Oct 29, 2009, 5:08 am |
Sconibulus said: Where did you get 20% chance? I'm pretty sure not even a single person in this thread has reported drop rates that high. Tzad's idea of a 10% chance seems much more likely, looking at the limited datapoints on the thread, although, if you guys really want to continue this we could move it over to the discussion page for smoked cheese on the wiki, make a table of everyone's hunting (who chooses to participate) every day, and the number of cheeses dropped. Then we can, much like we did with golem limb targetting percentages, work out a rate within a fairly small margin of error. Ok I was a little optimistic. I was going off of Elvis and Joachim as my numbers :) |
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Yamikuronue Posts: 1288 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 122 years old
| Message #38543 Posted: Oct 29, 2009, 2:27 pm |
From calculating drops on the dragons, on the wiki we've classified some drops as "rare" which hover around 10% and some as "ultrarare" which are 5% or below. This data seems to indicate Cheese was moved form Rare to UltraRare? We don't have specific drops or drop rates for most of the creatures, so those of you running tests, please help! |
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AtroposPosts: 94 Location: Daylsfeld Magus Age: 138 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #38587 Posted: Oct 30, 2009, 7:31 pm |
I "CAN" tell you that drops max range is between 25% and 0.01% right now. I can also say we're tending to add more things to more critters. (With some interesting things in the works.) I can't say what to what though. ... Let the feverish investigation of things begin! ^_^ (Have fun.) |
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Yamikuronue Posts: 1288 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 122 years old
| Message #38595 Posted: Oct 30, 2009, 10:09 pm |
Only 25%? Is that just for items? Because the rate of, say, coin drops seems far higher. |
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GordonIronsmith Posts: 434 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 120 years old
| Message #38596 Posted: Oct 30, 2009, 10:43 pm |
I'm pretty sure there's diffrent grouping of drops. As an example Standard(Always): 235-500 Gold, 230-325 Gems, 150-300 Addy. Random(sometimes): 250-340 Gold/silver, 25% chance. Item, 5% chance. |
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