| Author | Thread: Library and Research Requirements |
[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #396 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 4:17 am |
The Library's overall requirement has dropped slightly to Workshop Level 5.
However, the requirements for each of the research types now includes a minimum library level. For example, Wood Golem lvl 1 research now requires Locust Tree Lvl 3 AND Library Lvl 3. Eyes became easier (requiring Library lvl 2) but things like iron golems became harder (requiring Library lvl 9 as well as Foundry lvl 6).
The purpose of these changes is to spread out the golem researches, so that folks can't jump to iron and stone golems as quickly as before. There are combat tweaks to come as well which will improve the middle level golems (wood, clay, etc), so hopefully this won't make things too rough on folks meanwhile. :)
If you have already researched a particular type of golem or artificer item, this will NOT affect your ability to build parts on the worktable or in the artificer.
I'm still examining the costs to upgrade the lower levels of the library and will likely tweak these downward somewhat in the next day or two. High level library requirements will remain rather difficult. The overall library requirement may drop slightly again after I revisit the upgrade costs (perhaps as low as Workshop Level 3).
Kep |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: ADV | Message #398 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 11:55 am |
And part of this tweaking is to not show the additional researches available until requirements are met, I assume?
Ya scared the hell out of me when I hit the library first thing this morning. :) |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #401 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 3:35 pm |
Oops, yeah. I was a bit tired when I posted, so I had forgotten that. :)
The big list of what was available was a little cluttered IMO, so I decided to just show those that you were close to qualifying for.
Premiums still see the big list, but I'm debating on whether that's actually a useful feature or if it just makes things too cluttered again. Kinda leaning towards "too cluttered" but willing to listen to folks' thoughts on it.
Kep |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: ADV | Message #402 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 3:57 pm |
| You could always make it an option for the premium members. That way they can make the choice themselves. |
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| Gryficus Posts: 239
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #404 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 5:51 pm |
| I like seeing the full list personally, it seems odd with the partial list. |
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CaduceusPosts: 185 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU2 Real Name: Paul
| Message #407 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 7:09 pm |
| I agree. I'd like knowing what's needed to pursue a particular line of research. Gryficus said:
I like seeing the full list personally, it seems odd with the partial list. |
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| Gavalon Posts: 56
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #408 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 9:40 pm |
| ya, now i we will never know any cost/benefit analysis |
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| Mongo Posts: 6
Location: Arzenbourg
Magus Age: 122 years old
| Message #409 Posted: Mar 13, 2008, 10:21 pm |
| Huzzah! |
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| Gavalon Posts: 56
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #412 Posted: Mar 14, 2008, 6:26 pm |
| im actually really confused w.o seeing what i have to build as requirements. much better the old way or atleast add it to the help tabs |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #413 Posted: Mar 14, 2008, 7:23 pm |
I've added the first three levels of requirements to the Help Pages [help.muelsfell.com/charts.php].
Kep |
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CaduceusPosts: 185 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU2 Real Name: Paul
| Message #415 Posted: Mar 14, 2008, 8:17 pm |
| Awesome, thank you very much. |
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| Poseidon Posts: 241
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 113 years old
Real Name: Jack Website: Click HereEmail: kingclown00@hotmail.com | Message #434 Posted: Mar 17, 2008, 9:05 pm |
Just realised something.
Without the full list of researches shown, you wont be able to erase researches that arent close to a new level yet.
something to think about. |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #440 Posted: Mar 18, 2008, 4:27 pm |
The bug with the library not displaying the researches you already have has been corrected.
Kep |
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| Globbo Posts: 3
Location: Jaaron
Magus Age: 117 years old
| Message #449 Posted: Mar 19, 2008, 4:04 pm |
| A new player is told to build a library to research other golem types, but they are not told anywhere (except this forum thread) what is needed to build a library. This is confusing. |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #451 Posted: Mar 19, 2008, 5:30 pm |
Yup, it is. It's something I'll be correcting. First I have to decide how to tweak the lower level library requirements.
Hopefully will have it done sometime today. :)
Kep Globbo said:
A new player is told to build a library to research other golem types, but they are not told anywhere (except this forum thread) what is needed to build a library. This is confusing. |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #460 Posted: Mar 19, 2008, 9:48 pm |
The change is live.
What I did was make Library Lvl 1 a default building level (IE, one of the buildings you get when your account is created). Those players who didn't have a Library built were manually given the first level.
Before you can upgrade the Library to Lvl 2, you still must meet the Workshop Lvl 5 requirement.
As far as resource requirements, I simply rolled the requirements down one level. In other words, what used to be the requirements for Library Lvl 8 are now the requirements for Library Lvl 9. This should make the money costs slightly easier while maintaining upgrade difficulty on the higher levels.
Let me know additional problems! :D
Kep |
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| Tallis Posts: 30
Location: Villuno
Magus Age: 116 years old
Real Name: Kel
| Message #539 Posted: Mar 25, 2008, 6:28 pm |
The chart area in the help files is very nice. Are there any plans to make a similar "requirements" chart (like the research chart) for building workshop improvements?
i.e. I found the "Library" improvement requirements by searching through the forums, but it would have been helpful to be able to see it in either the charts, or as a link from the workshop page. I haven't been able to locate the "basement" requirements... |
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