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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40862 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 12:04 am |
Recently, there have been reports of attacks both ways between ARROW and TOMU. The numbers from those reports do not equal out. Being a scientific-minded type, I'd like to suggest a new page that allows access to all combat undertaken by clan members against other clan members. Furthermore, a scoring system could be implemented that would allow for rating one type of attack versus another.
Now, not being much of a PVPer myself, I have no clue how to score different things, so I'd like some input on what rating each of these types of attacks should have.
1. Attacks upon another clan member's personal defender.
a)fully healthy
b)partially damaged
c)1hp in chest, abdomen, pelvis, or head.
2. Attacks upon another clan member's clan defender.
a)fully healthy
b)partially damaged
c)1hp in chest, abdomen, pelvis, or head.
3. Raids upon another clan member's unguarded workshop.
4. Destruction of another clan member's buildings(not counting wall, which is basically defensive growths on a golem's tuckus)
Oh, and please suggest any other attacks that have special significance that I have missed. |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #40863 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 12:11 am |
| I for one approve of this idea :) |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 109 years old
| Message #40864 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 12:32 am |
| This is something I would like, too. We can all see who the last attacker was, but we don't know how many attacks there were. It would be very beneficial to see who was attacked, and how much, as some people may not say anything about it until later on. If it was only viewable to the SMs or all clan members, I don't think matters, but I think this would be very nice. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40865 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 1:05 am |
| Yes, but what about the scoring?? |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 109 years old
| Message #40866 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 1:41 am |
| Anything past what I would like to see? Sorry Harry, I guess I don't really have anything to add on that. I'm in support of any ideas you have, though. :) |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40870 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 4:24 am |
1. Attacks upon another clan member's personal defender.
a)fully healthy1
b)partially damaged3
c)1hp in chest, abdomen, pelvis, or head.10
2. Attacks upon another clan member's clan defender.
a)fully healthy7
b)partially damaged21
c)1hp in chest, abdomen, pelvis, or head.30
3. Raids upon another clan member's unguarded workshop to get resources.20
4. Destruction of another clan member's buildings(not counting wall, which is basically defensive growths on a golem's tuckus) 30
How does that sit for scoring? |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40872 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 4:58 am |
Um. We already have a skirmish system.
Furthermore, destruction of non-wall buildings doesn't currently exist.Last Edited: Dec 31, 2009, 4:58 am |
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| Rednaxela Posts: 177
Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 119 years old
| Message #40873 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 5:49 am |
| Yeah.... while I like the idea of being able to see more about battles tracked, we do already have a score/skirmish system. That said... various things about the current score/skirmish system bother me. |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 109 years old
| Message #40878 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 6:37 am |
| Well the thread is about adding more details to the skirmish system, not a new skirmish system. Which I'm all for. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40881 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 8:34 am |
Ok, I've read how the current skirmish scoring works, and that has absolutely nothing to do with the scoring I'm talking about.
I'm trying to give BAD points to the magus attacking personally, thus giving an easy way to account who has been the cause of troubles, which is why I give higher scores to meaner acts.
But if that's not an option, just having access to links to all the battle reports would be very handy.
Last Edited: Dec 31, 2009, 8:15 pm |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40894 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 8:50 pm |
| But this game encourages PvP. It's only the current social setup that decries excessive PvP as bad - according to the rules of this game, destroying as much property as you can gets you more score, XP, etc. |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40896 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 8:55 pm |
Having access to greater details, such as logged attacks rather than just the last attack, and who the attack was against would be excellent additions (perhaps with details of how the battle went, especially for clan golems), and in my own opinion absolutely needed.
The scoring system in the current skirmish system works for clan vs clan, but not for internal tracking of members. I think the updated scoring is an interesting and good idea, but the logging of attacks is a needed piece to this game. |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40897 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 8:57 pm |
| Agreed. I'd like to be able to know when any of my members lose their doorguard - a lot of them don't ask for help when they need it, and we have plenty of resources to help people recover from devastating PvP attacks. |
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TyphonPosts: 256 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 104 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40898 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 9:00 pm |
| Perhaps not a public scoreboard, but a simple improvement to the Clan Activity page? Have both incoming and outgoing attacks recorded on both sides. If you really want to manage clan member accountability, have the results of the battle (damage done to both golems, items lost, XP gained, wall damage done) displayed as well. |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40899 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 9:09 pm |
| Or hell, even a page where you can see the generated reports by and against clan members... |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40900 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 9:11 pm |
Alright, Kep, we expect this by Monday.
:P |
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TyphonPosts: 256 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 104 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40901 Posted: Dec 31, 2009, 9:12 pm |
| Yamikuronue said:
Or hell, even a page where you can see the generated reports by and against clan members...
This is a good idea. The only problem I forsee is that reports only last for 14 days. They'd need to be held for the same duration as clan activity page entries.
SkitzYie said:
Alright, Kep, we expect this by Monday.
:P
LOL!
Yeah! Get to your chair, code monkey!!!Last Edited: Dec 31, 2009, 9:14 pm |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40904 Posted: Jan 1, 2010, 12:21 am |
| If we get that much, I would be incredibly happy :) I could score it myself according to my own meter no prob if I could actually see the reports. |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40927 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 3:10 am |
I'm not at all sure this is a good idea. Yes, it's sometimes useful to be able to see what's going on, but do we really want our every attack and defense spied upon? Clans should probably be able to see reports involving clan guards, and should probably be notified when a clan guard prevents a looting, but no more.
I have enough issues with my government potentially spying on me that I don't want to worry about anyone else... stupid government. |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 118 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #40935 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 6:18 am |
Perhaps this, if implemented at all, could be something each Clan could turn off and on? Or each Magus? So if someone, like Sconi, didn't want someone, like me, to know just how much PvP he really does...
Also, this would likely be something that should only be viewable by officers of the Clan, which would protect privacy to some extent. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40942 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 9:20 am |
lol people that dont want to have their inter-clan battles tracked seem pretty guilty to me!
I personally want video cameras on every street and alley to catch people who are doing wrong. Since I am not doing anything wrong, I dont worry about being seen on camera in public places.Last Edited: Jan 2, 2010, 9:22 am |
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SkitzYiePosts: 383 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 111 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40948 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 3:06 pm |
I think clans should be able to set viewing rights, but that individuals should not be able to opt out. It is something you go along with by joining a clan, your actions reflect on your clan and your clan should be able to review logs to see what their members are doing that are both good and bad for the clan as a whole.
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 116 years old
| Message #40966 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 7:48 pm |
Because I don't want someone looking over my shoulder all the time I'm automatically guilty of great crimes? That sounds very police-state to me.
I'm a very private person by nature, it takes me many moons to trust someone enough to let them know even relatively little things about me, I don't like the idea of being spied on, even if it is supposedly for my own good. |
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| PhatsMahoney Posts: 558
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 109 years old
| Message #40967 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 7:58 pm |
I thought this was just something that said who was attacked, and how many times they were attacked, not who in the clan went out and attacked, and how many times they attacked so and so.
It should only be one sided. |
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HarryhausenPosts: 562 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 110 years old Clan: ARROW | Message #40972 Posted: Jan 2, 2010, 11:36 pm |
| That sounds like a great compromise. Just show all the attack reports re-made in non-named longer-lasting format, but showing who was attacked. |
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