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AuthorThread: The Yemeth thread
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Atropos
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Message #42921 Posted: Mar 20, 2010, 3:57 pm
I figured the >100% land would make the place interesting.

(What I actually wanted to do was have the land type randomize itself, but I don't have the ability to code that in. The whole place is a mess of illusions. So, I did the next best thing and put all the land types that I wanted to cycle through at 50%, to represent the average.)


I also guarantee you that people would complain if it was easy to get Narimasa's blessing or Yemeth's item. Mabye less so with Nari's, but they both have the same kind of situation as the Slayblade in terms of balance. (Yes.)

I think it's pretty obvious what kind of items they both are. (Or at least, it's rather easy to figure out.)

I really want to bring the elementals in now. Merherher.
Kenneth
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Message #42922 Posted: Mar 20, 2010, 4:13 pm
ooh ooh ooh pick me! Let me guess: Yemeth's special drop is the life-leech amulet thingy!
Last Edited: Mar 20, 2010, 5:09 pm
GordonIronsmith
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Message #42927 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 12:29 am
And I guess that Nari's is a "weapon" that improves elemental damage, and can probably be equipped anywhere.
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Message #42929 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 2:14 am
My guess for the Blessing is an armor item that has a dodge bonus to it- a Scale that has an effect similar to shields or Addy skin. Probably good def stats, balanced for all three elements.
Yamikuronue
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Message #42931 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 9:55 am
If nobody has it, then it's not game-breaking.

Also I kind of resent being called low-level >.> The only reason I'm the level I am is because I took several months off to deal with school. Once you've maxed out your buildings, level doesn't matter so much anymore, particularly if you're in a big clan.
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Message #42933 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 6:00 pm
Laidan's been farming Narimasa for some time and he tells me he has 30 kills.He's also far higher of a level than I am.

That is all I meant by "low level". I thought you'd be more offended by the "whining" remark lol.
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Message #42935 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 7:37 pm
I'm not low-level, I'm... maybe mid- to high-level. Laidan's REALLY high level.

ETA: For those following along at home, as I write this I'm level 18. Laidan is level 75. Kaelas, who plays about as much as I do and for about as long as I have, is level 39; I've been doing research for the wiki instead of grinding.
Last Edited: Mar 22, 2010, 1:46 am
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Message #42936 Posted: Mar 21, 2010, 8:56 pm
lol well boiled down, my remark is... "I'm glad that I can't defeat everything in the game yet". I never even looked to see what level you are :)
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Message #42939 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 1:34 am
Speaking of ridiculously high level, check out Joachim. How'd he do that? As for being high level, it doesn't help at all against those big creatures, as it's how quickly you can rebuild limbs that sets how fast you can attack in my experience at least.
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Message #42940 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 1:38 am
Or how many you can stockpile before you start your attacks. :)
GordonIronsmith
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Message #42945 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 3:33 am
laidan said:

Speaking of ridiculously high level, check out Joachim. How'd he do that? As for being high level, it doesn't help at all against those big creatures, as it's how quickly you can rebuild limbs that sets how fast you can attack in my experience at least.


As for Joachim I say lots of premium tickets, plus if you just exp farm for leveling up it goes really fast. The moment you start boosting you set your self back weeks, but back on topic.

I think levels only have an impact up too level 20 or so and passed that point the only thing that will help you out by leveling is the extra max moti and eventually level 50 and 5min per moti. the rest comes down to tickets and clan selection, and the willingness to throw boosted golems into combat they can easily lose...
Typhon
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Message #42953 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 2:54 pm
Atropos said:
If telekinesis is hitting you very hard, it's due to speed difference. (You'll also stand no chance whatsoever against the air elemental.)

If hellball is hitting you hard, it's a lack of elemental resistances.




I'd love to know how speed affects Telekinesis damage. My speed is 20 and this is what it looked like:


Ion reddens with improved fire resistance. Ion holds its ground while Yemeth holds its ground.
Ion attacks with its repeater dart tube and misses 6 times, but also hits the abdomen (13 dmg), the abdomen (13 dmg), the left arm (13 dmg), the left arm (13 dmg) and the left arm (13 dmg).
Yemeth attacks with its hellball and hits the left leg (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (15 dmg), the abdomen (26 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the pelvis (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the chest (15 dmg), the chest (15 dmg), the left arm (20 dmg) and the chest (15 dmg) with an exhaled gout of chaotic energy.
[Round 2] Ion holds its ground while Yemeth holds its ground.
Ion attacks with its repeater dart tube and misses 4 times, but also hits the abdomen (13 dmg), the head (13 dmg), the chest (13 dmg), the chest (13 dmg), the pelvis (13 dmg), the chest (13 dmg) and the left leg (13 dmg).
Yemeth attacks with its hellball and hits the chest (15 dmg), the abdomen (26 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the left arm (24 dmg), the abdomen (26 dmg), the pelvis (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the chest (15 dmg) and the right leg (11 dmg) with an exhaled gout of chaotic energy.

[Round 3] Ion holds its ground while Yemeth holds its ground. Your golem backs up so that it can use its repeater dart tube effectively. The attacker's repeater dart tube is out of range with about 130 feet between them, but the defender readies its hellball.

Yemeth attacks with its hellball and hits the right arm (11 dmg), the right arm (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the left arm (24 dmg), the head (28 dmg), the left arm (26 dmg), the chest (13 dmg), the right leg (11 dmg), the abdomen (26 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg) and the right leg (11 dmg) with an exhaled gout of chaotic energy. The left arm pulls itself free, flips through the air, and finally lodges deeply into the ground!

[Round 4] Ion continues to advance upon Yemeth while Yemeth continues to advance upon Ion.
Ion attacks with its repeater dart tube and misses 4 times, but also hits the chest (13 dmg), the right leg (13 dmg), the head (13 dmg), the right leg (13 dmg) and the left arm (13 dmg).
Yemeth attacks with its Forceful Telekinesis and hits the abdomen (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the abdomen (11 dmg), the head (11 dmg), the right arm (11 dmg), the right arm (11 dmg), the abdomen (11 dmg), the chest (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the pelvis (11 dmg), the abdomen (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the right hand (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg) and the left leg (11 dmg) with an exhaled gout of debris.

[Round 5] Ion holds its ground while Yemeth holds its ground. Your golem backs up so that it can use its repeater dart tube effectively.
Ion uses its repeater dart tube and hits once on the head (13 dmg).
Yemeth attacks with its hellball and hits the pelvis (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the left leg (11 dmg), the left leg (11 dmg) and the pelvis (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!) with an exhaled gout of chaotic energy. The pelvis pulls itself free, flips through the air, and finally lodges deeply into the ground! Both the legs are destroyed as well due to the destruction of the pelvis. Your golem topples over.
Ion's top half sprawls on the ground, unable to stand. This fight is over.


I have 40 damage resist on all parts and 27 base fire resist on almost all parts. Add in the 15 extra fire resist from the spell. With a speed of 20, Telekinesis hits me 16 times for 11 damage each. The Hellball, I can deal with but the telekinesis is what gets me. Also, take a look at round 3 for an interesting bug on golem movement.
Yamikuronue
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Message #42963 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 7:18 pm
Your speed (assuming monsters use accuracy the same way golems do) affects how hard it is for the enemy to hit you. Telekinesis has fairly low damage comparatively but hits a LOT of times. If you're slow, it hits you more and does more damage.
GordonIronsmith
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Message #42966 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 8:58 pm
Hasten XD. Though I do have a question, when a monster attacks you, does it goes against your golems base speed or current weapon speed. (I'm assuming base speed, but I don't know for sure)
Last Edited: Mar 22, 2010, 9:00 pm
Yamikuronue
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Message #42967 Posted: Mar 22, 2010, 9:32 pm
Our testing obviously isn't against actual monsters; it seems to be the base speed of the enemy golem, but we don't have a way to give the practice dummy a weapon.

To-do: Update the accuracy tools to count how accurate the practice dummy is against our golem as well >.>
Typhon
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Message #42978 Posted: Mar 23, 2010, 11:22 am
It finally happened. Ion has been destroyed. :(

Luckily, I anticipated this. I have a spare Iron > Bone being strength boosted at this very moment. I should have it ready by the end of the week.
Kenneth
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Message #42984 Posted: Mar 23, 2010, 11:00 pm
ouch.
...This is why I don't even attempt to kill him.

oh, and @ Atropos: can any of the methods to slay Yemeth while taking <300 dmg. be done by melee/spell clans?
Atropos
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Message #42989 Posted: Mar 24, 2010, 2:22 am
Every primary has some advantage when it comes to killing him, but it can be done with entirely non-clan equipment. (Though at high personal cost.)

Yemeth is tricksy with his implementation. I hoped it would take a while for people to figure out just what I've done. (So far so good.)

I won't say much more (Can't give everything away now). He exists as a challenge so that people with everything maxed at least have something to do.
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Message #43131 Posted: Mar 30, 2010, 7:16 pm
Any one had any better luck yet?


I'm interested to see what a boosted gem with haste would do.
Typhon
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Message #43185 Posted: Apr 3, 2010, 2:54 am
I had to fully rebuild Ion and so far I'm doing much better. I'm no longer losing limbs and I think I have his damage minimized to the point where I can afford to attack him 5 or 6 times per week and break even on the adamantine loss.
Typhon
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Message #43307 Posted: Apr 6, 2010, 2:47 pm
Question:

I have 5 lbs carrying capacity free on my Yemeth killer. I was under the impression that high level monsters will always return 50% carrying capacity worth of loot regardless of armor. Does that affect items recovered from him as well?
Last Edited: Apr 6, 2010, 2:48 pm
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Message #43347 Posted: Apr 7, 2010, 4:36 am
I doubt it, given that you need around 150lbs free to loot from the earth titian.
Typhon
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Message #43358 Posted: Apr 7, 2010, 2:52 pm
My frustration with the loot system in this game is rising.

>:(
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Message #44846 Posted: Jun 23, 2010, 6:31 am
hits the right leg (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the head (11 dmg), the right leg (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the pelvis (11 dmg), the chest (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the chest (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the chest (11 dmg), the abdomen (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the left arm (11 dmg), the left leg (11 dmg), the left arm (11 dmg), the abdomen (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the chest (11 dmg), the abdomen (11 dmg), the left arm (11 dmg), the chest (22 dmg -- CRITICAL HIT!) and the chest (11 dmg) with an exhaled gout of debris.

Laser-targeting, anyone?

Any tips? We still don't have much info in the wiki, I'm managing 2 rounds and that's using the new drop eyes so I can have a crystal lens and armor on my head. It's not even that I'm missing much, which I could blame on my low level - I'm only getting off two rounds worth of hits to begin with, which isn't enough.


also, it's been a quarter of a year, anyone got the Blessing or the Yemeth Drop?
Last Edited: Jun 23, 2010, 6:39 am
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Message #45826 Posted: Dec 19, 2010, 5:05 am
Typhon said:

Question:

I have 5 lbs carrying capacity free on my Yemeth killer. I was under the impression that high level monsters will always return 50% carrying capacity worth of loot regardless of armor. Does that affect items recovered from him as well?


I re-raise this question as it seems like a fair one. How much free space is needed to ensure Yemeth's drop is obtained when dropped. Petros isn't going to be able to hold out forever, I just hope I find the magic set up before his luck runs out.

Yes I am going after him with a stone golem.
 
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