| Author | Thread: Spikes need to be tweaked down |
| Gryficus Posts: 239
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #5858 Posted: Jul 1, 2008, 5:58 pm |
Wow, they are brutal right now. I attacked an iron golem with my copper, I took:
55 damage from his golem
273 from the spikes!!!
there's no way they should be doing 5 times the damage of the golem. |
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| Squeezepenny Posts: 93
Location: Feldspar
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #5862 Posted: Jul 1, 2008, 7:21 pm |
I like 'em.
I love 'em.
I want some more of 'em! |
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TzadkielPosts: 596 Location: Broukendale Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #5889 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 3:36 am |
If one considers a level 15 wall to be a level 15 MOB ... pretty weak.
I don't know the mechanics, but a Nerf Golem wouldn't take much damage from spikes -- the harder YOU hit, the worse you hurt. |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: ADV | Message #5891 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 3:56 am |
| Tzadkiel said:
If one considers a level 15 wall to be a level 15 MOB ... pretty weak.
I don't know the mechanics, but a Nerf Golem wouldn't take much damage from spikes -- the harder YOU hit, the worse you hurt.
I want to say he's talking about the golem weapon of spikes, not the spikes on the wall. Not sure, but we've had a run in with a spiked golem. It was not pretty. |
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| Gryficus Posts: 239
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #5899 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 7:20 am |
| I'm pretty sure it was the spikes from the wall, but not certain. |
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ZugZugPosts: 300 Location: Ibonbourg Magus Age: 119 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #5922 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 3:18 pm |
| Actually, I'm pretty sure he's talking about pie. I think apple pie, but perhaps pecan. |
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PeggaPosts: 702 Location: Jaaron Magus Age: 122 years old Clan: ADV | Message #5929 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 4:40 pm |
| Gryficus said:
I'm pretty sure it was the spikes from the wall, but not certain.
Could be. But, an attack report I saw previously had the golem doing 2 points of damage with fists, then 35 points with some spikes. Multiple times. Ouch. Maybe it was just a need to better protect from piercing weapons, but it was still cringe worthy.
ZugZug said:
Actually, I'm pretty sure he's talking about pie. I think apple pie, but perhaps pecan.
Maybe spiked apple pie. Mmmm... toasty. |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #5949 Posted: Jul 2, 2008, 8:17 pm |
Spikes were attacking as a 0-0-8 (IMP-SLI-PUN) weapon; I've tweaked them down to a 0-0-5 weapon. We'll see if that's a little better.
The amount they hit back is directly related to the number of times that the attacker hits, btw.
Kep |
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[ADMIN] ArkhamPosts: 902 Location: Mallow Magus Age: 124 years old Clan: AGOMC | Message #6416 Posted: Jul 8, 2008, 10:52 pm |
Today's combat tweaks also addresses a spike issue that's been bothering me:
Previously, spikes would still damage your golem even if you were at range. I've dropped that; you'll only get hit by spikes if you're at melee with the defender.
Kep |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 114 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #7185 Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 6:40 pm |
| so should spikes be hitting the attacker one more time than the attacker hits the wall? That's what I've seen in my...1 attack. |
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| CommComms Posts: 392
Location: Daylsfeld
Magus Age: 121 years old
| Message #7214 Posted: Jul 17, 2008, 11:12 pm |
| I have seen that also. On several occasions it's said something along the lines of my golem hitting the wall x times, and the spikes hitting back x+1 times |
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| Tariana Posts: 162
Location: Broukendale
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #7221 Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:11 am |
Maybe you get spikified once on the way in, then it's once per attack after that? :)
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| Tariana Posts: 162
Location: Broukendale
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #7222 Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:14 am |
| Arkham said:
Previously, spikes would still damage your golem even if you were at range. I've dropped that; you'll only get hit by spikes if you're at melee with the defender.
Kep
Oooh! Could there maybe be another quest to get upgraded spikeys that would shoot at the bad guys? More quests! Yay! |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 120 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #7224 Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:20 am |
| tariana, please try not to double post. that is what edits are for. and i doubt that there will be a ranged spike quest item (RTS guard towers aside, i doubt it is going to happen). there might come to be a spell though. anti-arrow fireball or flamewall anyone?? |
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| Tariana Posts: 162
Location: Broukendale
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #7225 Posted: Jul 18, 2008, 12:33 am |
| Nanashi said:
tariana, please try not to double post. that is what edits are for.
Sorry! I'm used to threaded convos so stuff is next to what it's replying to, which makes it totally silly to glomp everything together.
Nanashi, please try to capitalize. That is what the shift key is for.
EDIT: That last bit was a little harsher than I meant it to be. My point was it's a style preference. I (usually) don't say anything when people don't use capitals and punctuation and spelling, even though that bugs me, because that's their style. It doesn't hurt anything if I reply to two different posts separately even if it isn't how you'd do it, so why would you make an issue?Last Edited: Jul 18, 2008, 12:42 am |
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| stondIdle Posts: 31
Location: Nournsland
Magus Age: 107 years old
| Message #28396 Posted: Mar 27, 2009, 8:35 pm |
| Arkham said:
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you'll only get hit by spikes if you're at melee with the defender.
Kep
so ranged golems take no spike damage? |
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| Dilt Posts: 167
Location: Fellin
Magus Age: 112 years old
| Message #28397 Posted: Mar 27, 2009, 8:52 pm |
Ranged golems (even on hangback) are stupid, they'll try to melee the other golem regardless of what you do. As a result, they get spiked anyway.
Clarification: They still hangback, but they still try to get in melee anywhere from 1-8 times depending on luck. Those times are when you get spiked!Last Edited: Mar 27, 2009, 8:53 pm |
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laidanPosts: 1158 Location: Mottonsborough Magus Age: 114 years old Clan: OASIS | Message #28398 Posted: Mar 27, 2009, 9:12 pm |
| Meaning on average they still only take 2 rounds of spike damage...or combat damage at all unless they're up against a ranged defender...I wish spiked chain range worked:P |
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