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CaduceusPosts: 185 Location: Last Alvia Dawning Magus Age: 132 years old Clan: OTAKU2 Real Name: Paul
| Message #8398 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 7:30 am |
| Yonk said:
THE TRAMP OF OUR GOLEMS IS THE TRAMP OF DOOOOOOOMM!!!!!
The tramp of your golems is my last girlfriend? Egads. |
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NinomaiPosts: 41 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 121 years old Clan: STEAM Real Name: sara
| Message #8404 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 1:12 pm |
| Yonk said:
THE WORLD WILL BURN! YOU WILL BREAK BENEATH OUR RIGHTEOUS WEAPONS! THERE IS NO QUARTER OR MERCY FOR THE UNRIGHTEOUS! DO YOU HEAR THAT SOUND? THE TRAMP OF OUR GOLEMS IS THE TRAMP OF DOOOOOOOMM!!!!!
we'll put that on your tombstone. |
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| Ferdowsi Posts: 42
Location: Zion's Reach
Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #8414 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 3:55 pm |
indomitable? are you calling me fat?
but.. the lady at the store said the cape was flattering... *looks at cape self consciously*
well, at least my name isn't a sound effect. YONK. Sounds like the illegitimate child of a donkey and a horn. ee-yonk. Isn't the church against such things, yonker doodle?
I suppose, doctor yonkenstein, that as History Buff I should point out that a church has very rarely held secular power for very long. It's just too easy to build another. Case in point: Ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, Vatican, Maya, Aztec, and so forth.
I should stop. I've ran out of clever things to call you, yonkzilla. However, you are indomitable yourselves in religious authority... until someone else makes another church. Of course, that would be sacrilege to say, wouldn't it, dear little yonkette?
oh. looks like I had one more. |
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| palleon Posts: 84
Location: Agoia Talia
Magus Age: 121 years old
Real Name: Steve
| Message #8418 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 4:18 pm |
What about the players that are in the clans who do not wish to war? The attacks are driving away players on both sides, which defeats the object slightly. You are meant to diss hearten our players, not your own. You aren't protecting your own players enough. Personally, I wasn't going to get involved but after being attacked 12 times yesterday, I had little choice.
I was working with other players in my area, to help them level up and get more xp, by letting them attack me after we had spoken about it, and therefore helping them. Not protecting them, as I don't have the resources to do that, but by helping them get more money. If I atacked them, I did it so they could get xp and so could i. Not to destroy them and make their gaming experience harder and less enjoyable.
But now, I have been dragged into this, just because of a name, because you clan leaders with all of your vertue can't talk and agree.
Also, your asking no one to stay nutral. Your not giving them much choice are you?
Join us and we will let you stay for a while, to give you protection and a golem to guard your low level workshop.
What if they don't? What if they want to stay strictly nutral? |
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| ShaoKahn Posts: 99
Location: Jaaron
Magus Age: 147 years old
Real Name: Craig
Email: craigbrett17@aol.com
| Message #8419 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 4:19 pm |
To all my fellow Magi who aren't corrupted by religious tosh.
Stand united or fall individually under the heel of this evil self-righteous threat to Muelsfell's security. Not only do they ruin the land, they claim they are right to do so.
Oh and CommComms, can your blessed whatever golems do anything about people choosing to leave your clan because they've finally seen what jackasses you really are? What do you intend to do about them?
UU offers shelter in it's halls to anyone who wishes to take it in this time of need. Not only that but you might learn something in our university. We also offer clan golems for protection on request.
We alongside the Coalition will stand together and fight to the last. No golem too strong, no amount of reports too high, no amount of barracade repairing too much. You won't beat us! |
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| ShaoKahn Posts: 99
Location: Jaaron
Magus Age: 147 years old
Real Name: Craig
Email: craigbrett17@aol.com
| Message #8420 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 4:22 pm |
Then Palleon, don't join a clan that's racketeering and bullying other players. You can leave. Malakor and Blade already have and they as well as you can come back if you choose to.
To stay out of fighting, you can always play Twilight Heroes if you like... |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #8421 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 4:29 pm |
| palleon said:
Join us and we will let you stay for a while, to give you protection and a golem to guard your low level workshop.
What if they don't? What if they want to stay strictly nutral?
Then make sure they aren't a member of the warring clans, or opt out of pvp, non-Magier members have only been targeted by clan-sponsored attacks on two occasions that I know of, once a small pair of attacks against a non-clan member that hit one of our guys thrice in rapid succession, and one coordinated attack against a suspected mule of your Saint Coyne. |
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| Ferdowsi Posts: 42
Location: Zion's Reach
Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #8422 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 5:00 pm |
None of the coalition or the church is in a position to offer anyone shelter. Splinter into another church or take shelter in another clan. POETS will not take a position for or against anyone.
Our official position is that this was at first cute, then understandable, and now sheer nonsense. Magier has no way of enforcing their mandate, and the clan war system hasn't yet been refined to an appropriate level to allow true warfare.
If you wish for temporary shelter within our clan, we will give it after you arrange it with us. It will be case by case, and for anyone at all, whether church, coalition, or simply afraid. I'm sure that any other unaffiliated clan will offer the same shelter.Last Edited: Jul 27, 2008, 5:10 pm |
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| Kaelas Posts: 1052
Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 124 years old
Real Name: Barry
| Message #8423 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 5:17 pm |
Palleon, are you really that blind to the activities of your own clan? This has been going on for some time before war was declared on MAGIER. We have tried to open negotiations twice to resolve this conflict. The first time we asked simply that the attacker pay for the damages caused and then we would both go our separate ways. This offer was laughed at. The second time MAGIER demanded that we boot the founder of our Clan and pay tribute.
It was after we declined this offer that MAGIER decided to try and demand tribute from every single Clan under the threat of war. This whole situation is the result of that threat. If you do not wish to be part of such things, which is understandable, you should not have joined such a Clan. By being a member you are indirectly supporting their effort.
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And to Ferdowsi, this is a ideal much needed at this time, that of a Red Cross or Switzerland. Thank you for providing those that wish to stand down their arms a place to join under a reasonable rule. In that spirit, I promise that any member of ToMU that attacks a member of POETS, new or old, will be forced to pay reparations double that of the damage done. |
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| Endovior Posts: 172
Location: Nournsland
Magus Age: 124 years old
| Message #8424 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 5:20 pm |
Not that the Magiers have been that effective at attacking us. Since the war began, I haven't been hit once, though I've done plenty of raiding and pillaging myself.
Palleon... did the Magiers gang up on and bully you into joining? Or are you just some stooge/alt that defected to them, and now whine about us hitting you? If the former, then you're a fool, as you've joined what's now obviously the losing side; leave now and save yourself our wrath. If the latter, then what did you expect? You reap your just reward. Either way, you're my enemy so long as you stand under the banner of the Magier. And who do you think will be your friend? |
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| palleon Posts: 84
Location: Agoia Talia
Magus Age: 121 years old
Real Name: Steve
| Message #8425 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 5:26 pm |
| As to why I joined, that is my buisness. Secondly, as soon as clans became live, I was attacked by several clans. Thirdly, all I am doing is trying to sort out a clan like the poets, where people who do not wish to fight, do not have to. Is that really such a bad thing? I think not. And, as I am blind, I like your choice of wording. |
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| ShaoKahn Posts: 99
Location: Jaaron
Magus Age: 147 years old
Real Name: Craig
Email: craigbrett17@aol.com
| Message #8428 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 5:43 pm |
| Kaelas said:
Palleon, are you really that blind
This made me chuckle.
But Palleon like I said, if you're in a clan you reap the benefits of being part of that clan and the support, but in times of war you will be attacked just for being in that clan and expected to stand up and defend your clan. I know I've already said this to you but not publically.
I'd suggest leaving the Magier to their fate. They're getting their reward for their selfish and self-important attitude. |
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| Poseidon Posts: 241
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 119 years old
Real Name: Jack Website: Click HereEmail: kingclown00@hotmail.com | Message #8435 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 6:29 pm |
| What about the players that are in the clans who do not wish to war? The attacks are driving away players on both sides, which defeats the object slightly. You are meant to diss hearten our players, not your own. You aren't protecting your own players enough. Personally, I wasn't going to get involved but after being attacked 12 times yesterday, I had little choice.
We're not forcing anyone in MAGIER into this war. If they want to get out of this war, it's as simple as hitting the "leave clan" button. And as for people who join MY clan, if they want out of the war they can do the same. They knew what they were getting into, I advertised this plainly as a PvP clan.
But now, I have been dragged into this, just because of a name, because you clan leaders with all of your vertue can't talk and agree.
Join the poets. They'll keep you out of harms way. Our attacks are focused solely at MAGIER at this point. You are one of their members presently, and that makes you a target.
Also, your asking no one to stay nutral. Your not giving them much choice are you?
Join us and we will let you stay for a while, to give you protection and a golem to guard your low level workshop.
What if they don't? What if they want to stay strictly nutral?
Of course I'm not asking anyone to stay neutral. The whole point of this thread was to rally troops. If you want to stay out of the action, then by all means stay out. But don't join MAGIER or NWO.
All I am doing is trying to sort out a clan like the poets, where people who do not wish to fight, do not have to. Is that really such a bad thing? I think not. And, as I am blind, I like your choice of wording.
Not at all. Quite the noble thing actually. Whenever this new clan of yours is made it will be safe from attack, at least from the clans involved in this war.
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #8456 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 7:24 pm |
| It is amazing to find me repeating myself in a new medium that I did not expect to. "People are stupid. People are stubborn. People are selfish. We hear what we choose to hear. We see what we choose to see." This war, like any other, is getting simply ridiculous. It seems that people are resorting to slinging verbal ammunition instead of just attacking each other's workshops. Throughout history, there have been countless factions on various sides claiming "divine right". The crusades in the dark ages (the children's crusade was great), the Nazis in WWII thinking they were God's supreme race, the Al Quaeda in the present. As a way to instigate a clan war, MAGIER did well. As a way to extort resources from other players, they made a mistake. |
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| Yonk Posts: 105
Location: Villuno
Magus Age: 132 years old
| Message #8462 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 7:49 pm |
(Removes Cardboard Crazy Fanatic hat) Just to clarify here: Magier went into this with both eyes open - the Sanctity of Use Tax (SUT) was put up to debate, then to a vote in our forums, and anyone with half a brain could see that it would lead to war - possibly with the entire world. It was also pretty certain that we had no chance at all of ever seeing a speck of iron out of it. But the process was quite democratic.
Basically, a few of us were kinda bored and restless and nobody stood up in the forums to challenge this course of action. If there had been even one dissenting voice, this war would be going quite differently. See? The moral of the story is that you need to PARTICIPATE in your forums and take a leadership stance for common sense or else be content to follow the crazy people.
Oh - and "indomitable" means brave, bowing the knee to no man. It's a compliment of a kind. Yonk isn't actually MEANT to be a serious name, BTW - it's kind of a surprise to me that ANYONE took us seriously, even on the internet.
(Replaces Cardboard Crazy Fanatic Hat)
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #8466 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 7:58 pm |
Yonk, you may be the enemy but I love you. You seem to be the only Knight with a sense of humour, and I think that had we met in a bar or brothel rather than on the field of battle we could be good friends.
Once this war is over want to hit a bar or brothel? |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 122 years old
| Message #8468 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:00 pm |
ooh, count me in on the bar/brothel scene!
oh, right, *reinstates semi-leadership hat* Sconibulus! How dare you fraternize with the enemy? No soup for you! |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #8470 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:05 pm |
to Yonk and all of MAGIER, congratulations on starting your war because of boredom. I think it would have had a better outcome if you had simply declared war on another clan though.
To Yamikuronue....so who is the soup nazi now? |
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| Yonk Posts: 105
Location: Villuno
Magus Age: 132 years old
| Message #8473 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:16 pm |
Ninomai said: Yonk said:
THE WORLD WILL BURN! YOU WILL BREAK BENEATH OUR RIGHTEOUS WEAPONS! THERE IS NO QUARTER OR MERCY FOR THE UNRIGHTEOUS! DO YOU HEAR THAT SOUND? THE TRAMP OF OUR GOLEMS IS THE TRAMP OF DOOOOOOOMM!!!!! we'll put that on your tombstone.
Actually, it would be much more ironic if you put "Turn now ... or be forever lost." |
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| CommComms Posts: 392
Location: Daylsfeld
Magus Age: 127 years old
| Message #8475 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:22 pm |
| Nanashi said:
to Yonk and all of MAGIER, congratulations on starting your war because of boredom.
Whoa whoa whoa. Just to be clear here, we didn't start this war. Ya'll ganged up and launched a sneak attack on us. We just let everyone know that we were going to demand stuff from them at some point in the future. Oh sure, we were expecting a war, but that's just semantics. |
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NanashiPosts: 1115 Location: Asylum Magus Age: 126 years old Clan: OTAKU | Message #8476 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:23 pm |
"Hold your ground, hold your ground! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of woes and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you 'stand, Men of the West!'"
sorry, just couldn't resist throwing it in. although I am not sure it is appropriate to the situation... |
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| Sconibulus Posts: 664
Location: Shuul
Magus Age: 123 years old
| Message #8478 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:33 pm |
A sneak attack? It followed the formal declaration of war by Poseidon, and he was the only non-member of ToMU that participated. ToMU if you would recall, had been launching attacks for several days prior to that, ever since our temporary cease-fire.
Yonk, why haven't you replied to my offer of drunkenness and/or debauchery, it'll be fun. |
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| Denerid Posts: 279
Location: Rildesjan
Magus Age: 124 years old
| Message #8479 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:36 pm |
| CommComms said:
Whoa whoa whoa. Just to be clear here, we didn't start this war. Ya'll ganged up and launched a sneak attack on us. We just let everyone know that we were going to demand stuff from them at some point in the future. Oh sure, we were expecting a war, but that's just semantics.
Thanks for the lying, self-serving reading of history, but that's not what actually happened. What happened was that you started attacking ToMU, you taunted us about being unable to defend oursels, and then you announced to the whole forum that you were going to enforce your rules on everyone. Then we got sick of it, and we built a coalition to take you down. That's not gang-up-and-sneak-attack, that's having allies. You attacked us, taunted us about not being able to respond, and still have the gall to say you didn't start the war?
But yes, thanks for showing off your persecution complex again. We'll be sure to beat that out of you too.Last Edited: Jul 27, 2008, 8:44 pm |
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| Yamikuronue Posts: 1288
Location: Mottonsborough
Magus Age: 122 years old
| Message #8480 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:42 pm |
Might I also add that MAGIER had been picking on ToMU for so long before we replied that even with all the attacking we've been doing, MAGIER is still ahead in the skirmish reports (though not by much).
Sneak attack. Right. Thanks for making me laugh, though. |
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| palleon Posts: 84
Location: Agoia Talia
Magus Age: 121 years old
Real Name: Steve
| Message #8481 Posted: Jul 27, 2008, 8:46 pm |
I've started the clan. Phoenix is the name.
Also, I'm up for the drunken nights and the sex. Sounds kind of fun, but then so does drowning in beer.
Hmm beer!!!!!!!!! |
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