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Darghelm, in the Foothills of Ulvania
The hardy people of Ulvania value family bonds and friends over all else, so Darghelm has developed an extensive network of taverns, cozy inns, and messaging systems. They are not a cowardly nor xenophobic people and so allow people from all over the continent to use their taverns and speakeasy establishments.
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AuthorThread: The Muelsfell Super Alliance
Semaj
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Message #38604 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 2:39 am
Hello all. This is a public service announcement brought to you by your favorite ambassador Semaj. A few of you know me, to the rest I will be there to visit eventually.

I have not been playing this game as long as some of you but I have done some big things, whether you noticed them or not. I am also working on other big projects. The most important of which is clan togetherness.

I want to step up the clan togetherness to the next level.

I have notice that clan building can become expensive. I am sure many of you have. Even a clan with 30 active members would become stalled in the building process at some point. The proposal is that if all of the current 34 clans with their 230 active members band together we can in days accomplish what on our own would take months if not years.

The math is that IF (that's a big if) the 230 active plays all have maxed resource output and all donated to the same place that's 13,248,000 of a resource in one day. JUST ONE DAY!

If we could all open our doors and work together the possibilities are truly endless.

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Am I delusional? No. I know this is a lot of out of the box thinking, pipe dreams for the most part. Most people couldn't be bothered to take away from what they are doing to help others. But if by some chance enough of us could work together it would be amazing.

Post, let me know what everyone thinks. Does anyone think this could work? Does anyone have similar or better ideas?
Yamikuronue
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Message #38606 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 3:24 am
The question is why.

What does it gain any individual clan in the long run if, by banding together, they get short-term boosts at the cost of losing their individual identity?

A clan is, should be, more than just a collection of random people. A clan should support you, should be a cohesive unit. A clan should, in essence, be more than the sum of its parts.
Semaj
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Location: Shuul
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Message #38640 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 3:25 pm
Why? Lack of players. At the point some of the bigger clans are almost at a stand still. Anyone who can do math can see that. Even the biggest clans would take months to advance there library, and that would be under ideal circumstances.

I am not asking anyone to leave their clans, just to work with each other to farther everyone's advancement.

I guess if there where more people in the game active than my togetherness preaching would be far more mute, but with only 230 active clan members getting anything done is tough. 300 people would be needed to advance a clan to max in any sort of timely fashion. I want to see what everyone could do with higher level clans.

Yes, a clan should be more than a sum of its parts, but an alliance can just be about helping one another.
Nanashi
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Location: Asylum
Magus Age: 105 years old
Clan: OTAKU
Message #38642 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 4:28 pm
Considering that in some MMOs, it can take a person months to level one high-level character, should it be a surprise that it takes a while to upgrade a high-level clan?
Yamikuronue
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Message #38643 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 5:28 pm
But here's the thing. In order to do this, everyone would have to join clan A and sit there, donating, for some time. Then everyone would have to migrate to clan B, then clan C. At what point do you cease to really belong to any of those clans? Frankly, I'm pleased at what our clan can accomplish, and see no need to remove that sense of achievement by having two hundred strangers show up and powerlevel us. What's the point, then? What does TOMU stand for if we didn't earn or achieve anything on our own?
Joachim
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Clan: STEAM
Real Name: Walt
Message #38646 Posted: Oct 31, 2009, 6:41 pm
Yamikuronue said:

Frankly, I'm pleased at what our clan can accomplish, and see no need to remove that sense of achievement by having two hundred strangers show up and powerlevel us. What's the point, then? What does TOMU stand for if we didn't earn or achieve anything on our own?


Precisely. *two thumbs up*
Semaj
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Message #38664 Posted: Nov 1, 2009, 2:26 pm
First, if one knows what they are doing there are ways to level characters in other MMOs to the highest levels in a weekend. And the methods used are legit.

Second, I guess that's where the Alliances and Ambassadors [www.muelsfell.com/world/map_community.php] suggestion I had before would be handy. There would be no hopping around from clan to clan. Also if everyone joined clan A it would be for a matter of days, maybe.

However, seeing the opposition forming I guess that leaves mass recruiting. As I stated, pipe dreams. I can understand the sense of achievement of doing it on your own but the munchkin in me wants to see the high level stuff now, not in a year or two.

So, other than the lose of identity and sense of a achievement anyone have any other input? I mean, if no one else likes the idea that's cool. I just kinda post the things that come to mind. Anyone have a better idea, other that keep'in on keep'in on that is.
Nanashi
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Clan: OTAKU
Message #38671 Posted: Nov 1, 2009, 8:33 pm
Semaj said:

First, if one knows what they are doing there are ways to level characters in other MMOs to the highest levels in a weekend. And the methods used are legit.


I'm sorry... there is a reason they nickname it World of Warcrack... I think there are even support groups. There are games I have played you could level a character in a few hours or a few days at most, but those were private servers and it tended to be power-leveling.

Anyway, that is besides the point. I am all for the next shiny as much as anyone, but the clan I am in is part of my identity. Maybe a lot of people don't RP (which is a shame) but I would like to, more than I already do. And my clan affiliations are part of that.

Not to mention the issue of the spy check system and any mechanics secrets different clans might have. Not sure how many of the secrets are still secrets but there might be some. And if we all hop from clan to clan, the spy/mule check will be absolutely pointless.
Kaelas
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Location: Darghelm
Magus Age: 104 years old
Real Name: Barry
Message #38799 Posted: Nov 4, 2009, 6:54 am
Also... the math doesn't make sense. If I have ten people and five things to buy, it doesn't make any difference on what order they buy them. If they each make a dollar a day and each thing costs ten, you need 50 dollars and five days, regardless on how you allocate the savings.

You can get one a day by focusing on one at a time or all five in five days if you spread it out evenly. Either way, you have to wait five days to get them all.

So all this would do is get some Clans built up first and faster at the expense of other Clans having to wait. And how would the order of 'pushing' be decided... I shudder to even think of the debate that would spark. Interesting idea but not really practical, honestly.

As for alternatives? I suggest bribing friends and family into playing, then steal their primes. Errr, get them to donate, I mean. Donate.
DonJuanDeBascobel
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Location: Rimesvin
Magus Age: 97 years old
Clan: ARROW
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Message #38812 Posted: Nov 4, 2009, 5:17 pm
Kaelas said:

As for alternatives? I suggest bribing friends and family into playing, then steal their primes. Errr, get them to donate, I mean. Donate.


In unrelated news, I lol'd.
 
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